This might be one of the most honest posts I’ve ever written and also the most difficult. Many people ask me what culinary school was like and I always hesitate because I hate sounding negative. I don’t want to burst any bubbles. Food is IN right now and culinary school sounds mysterious and exciting. I’m living the dream, right? Before you envy me, I have some opinions about school that I think you should know. I’m going to tell it to you straight. If you currently work in the food industry, this post might be offensive and for that I’m sorry. Everyone has a perspective and this is mine.
I had great hesitations while writing this. What will my chefs think? Will I sound like I’m whining? All of my frustrations, resentments, and fears rose to the surface. But then again, so did my feelings of pride and accomplishment. Culinary school was the most brutal experience of my life but I gained so much. Not only did I learn to create beautiful food but I gained confidence. To gain that confidence I had to be ripped from my comfort zone and torn to shreds, only to be built up again. Not unlike boot camp.
A Typical Day
Here is a typical day at school: I’d arrive at 6:15am, get changed into my chef’s outfit, help the sous chef with mise en place and then be seated in class by 7am. For two hours we’d take notes as the chefs prepared 3 courses: an appetizer, an entree and a dessert. At the end of the lecture we’d gather around the front, sample the food and head into the kitchen. There were never enough tools to go around so the next 20 minutes would be a war zone; a battle for towels without holes and saute pans that weren’t warped. If we weren’t watching our stations closely, ingredients and equipment would magically vanish. There often weren’t enough burners and we had to watch carefully to make sure the heat wasn’t accidentally turned up or down (or the pan “accidentally” moved to a different burner in the back). For two and a half hours we would rush rush rush to prepare the food we had tasted while the chefs yelled at us to move faster. At 11:30am our station had to be spotless and the food had to be perfectly plated. After our food was approved we would spend the next few minutes eating our three course meal but there was no time to savor anything because that kitchen had to be absolutely spotless by the time we returned for our afternoon lecture at 12:30. Burners soaked and scrubbed, floor swept and mopped, all dishes cleaned, ingredients put away. Our afternoon lecture finished at 2:30pm and that was it. But not really because evenings were spent reading textbooks, typing up recipes and practicing knife skills.
I’m not going to lie. It was completely exhausting and I was a wreck half of the time I was there; one giant bundle of caffeinated nerves. I’ve had anxiety issues though the years and this put my nerves to the test (shout out to my good friend Xanax). I cracked under the pressure on more than one occasion but usually kept it to myself. And then one day in the final weeks I had a complete meltdown. It was mortifying. There’s no crying in the kitchen? I wasn’t crying in the kitchen; I was sobbing in the kitchen. Did that make me weak? In the eyes of my classmates, yes. In my own eyes, no. It made me human.
The List
Do you want to know what culinary school is like? Here we go. This is a list, because I’m into lists lately.
- Culinary school is not some mecca of foodies. It’s mainly full of students who are just out of high school or in their early 20s. They may or may not have a passion for food. The sole purpose of culinary school is to teach students how to work the line in a restaurant. There’s not at lot of in-depth discussion about ingredients or food history.
- Culinary schools are for-profit institutions and they want your money. When you meet the director of admissions, he or she will tell you that you’re a perfect fit for the school. What you need to know: You’ll be paying a large sum of money ($30,000-$100,000) and you’ll most likely have to take out a student loan. When it comes time to pay back your loan you will be working for just above minimum wage in a field that offers little advancement.
- 90% of what you learn to cook will be French cuisine. The French have excellent techniques but don’t expect a lot of variety in the classroom.
- You will be eating a three-course fine dining meal for lunch every single day. It sounds delicious, right? It is. All the butter and cream you could ever want in your life. Paula Deen has nothing on French chefs. But it gets rather… heavy after awhile. And so do you.
- You will not get to work with every ingredient. Students work in teams and not everyone gets to prepare every dish. I never touched lobster, I only filleted one salmon. No one prepared pork belly because it was never offered to us.
- You need to move fast all the time. Cooks who work the line are supposed to move with a sense of urgency. There’s no leaning on counters, chatting, or sitting. If you have nothing to do you’re supposed to be cleaning. There’s no rest at culinary school. It’s a completely different experience than cooking at home.
- Only smokers get to take breaks. I’m not exaggerating. I actually started smoking again at school because it was the only chance I had to relax in a very tense environment (don’t worry, I quit the second I left the building). The same is true at a restaurant. If you go outside for a cigarette, it’s fine. If you go outside just to sit down for a few minutes, you’re in trouble.
- There’s no time for injuries. If you cut or burn yourself, you keep going just as you would in a professional kitchen. In the first week of school I sustained a 2nd degree burn on my hand from hot stock. Within 20 minutes I was making pie dough with the other hand.
- Ladies, say goodbye to your femininity. The outfits are incredibly baggy and unflattering, your hair will be in a bun, your nails will be short and polish-free, and no makeup or jewelry is allowed (with the exception of a plain wedding band).
- Vegetarians are not tolerated. If you’re a vegetarian, don’t bother with culinary school. You’ll be laughed out the door. Many chefs are actually offended by vegetarians and vegans. Don’t expect a lot of sympathy if you have a food allergy, either. I intentionally did my externship at a vegetarian restaurant because I wanted to learn healthier techniques. Judging by the reaction I got you would have thought I’d told my classmates I was going to work with cannibals.
- “Health food” is a dirty word. We spent exactly one day dedicated to healthy food at school. Actually, it wasn’t even a day. It was an afternoon “Spa” challenge where we had to create a dish with calorie restrictions. You don’t go to culinary school to learn about healthy cuisine. There are, however, specialty schools such as The Natural Gourmet Institute. I know nothing about these schools but maybe they’re more open minded? I hope so.
- Culinary school is often a competition between classmates. There is very little camaraderie. Students typically work in groups and if one person goes down, the whole ship can go down. Everyone makes mistakes while training and resentment builds quickly.
- Chef’s way is the only way. Do you like grilled asparagus? If Chef does not like grilled asparagus, it’s bad. End of story. Do you have a particular way you like to cook hard boiled eggs? It doesn’t matter if it works, it’s wrong. That’s how a home cook prepares eggs.
- You never talk back. If you have a question when something doesn’t make sense or say anything other than “YES CHEF!” expect to be yelled at and/or ridiculed. I witnessed countless contradictions between lectures and never received clarity. Why is something done a particular way? Because that’s how it’s done.
- Work will become your social life. Almost all culinary schools require a restaurant externship regardless of whether you plan to work in the field after graduation. Mine was 6 months and I worked the line for over a year in total. Make no mistake, you’re training to work in a field that mostly consists of evening, weekend and holiday shifts.
On The Plus Side…
Ok. That was a whole lot of negativity, so I’m going to counter with some positives:
- You will learn how to make incredible food. You’ll be preparing breath-taking dishes you once thought were entirely too complicated. That is a wonderful adrenaline rush.
- You’ll have unexpected experiences. I got to go to The White House and listen to Michelle Obama speak. I got to meet numerous celebrities in the food world including Marcus Samuelsson, Tom Colicchio, Shirley O’Corriher, Jose Andres, Cat Cora, Carla Hall and many others. I spent an entire day assisting Graham Elliott and Elizabeth Faulkner at a charity event.
- Not all chefs are crazy. For every Gordon Ramsey there is a Jacques Pepin. Our time at school was divided into Phase I and II. Phase I consisted of three passionate, wonderful chefs who wanted us to succeed and were willing to be mentors. They laughed with us while pushing us to work harder and be the best we could be. Phase II was full of anger, shouting, and little to no mentoring. What were they so angry about? Was it because they were treated poorly and turnabout is fair play? I’ll never know. I wish I could have ended the experience with Phase I. Maybe the positive memories would seem like more than a faded dream.
Would I do it all again?
That’s a really tough question. Reading through my list you’d think the obvious answer would be no. However, I’m not sure I’d be where I am today had I not gone back to school. At the end of the day, I learned a tremendous amount of technique. My L’Academie degree has given me a certain amount of street credibility that has definitely provided job opportunities. But I’ve also been incredibly lucky and it might not have turned out so well. There were many nights when I feared my only options would be working the line or returning to a dreaded desk job. Was it worth a year of misery to be as happy as I am now? Yes. Were there other ways I could have achieved the same goals? Probably. Can I honestly recommend culinary school to you? No. Does that mean you shouldn’t go? Of course not. Only you know whether it’s the right decision for you.
If you’re thinking about attending culinary school, go work for free (“stage”) at a restaurant on evenings and weekends. Many places will gladly take you on. You might be chopping 50 pounds of onions or unloading giant bags of flour. You might be peeling shrimp for 5 hours. But you’ll get a feel for the restaurant environment and you’ll be better informed about what you’re getting into. If you cringed when I mentioned “evenings and weekends,” you need to seriously reconsider your desire to go to school.
My final thoughts.
I realize this is all a bit harsh and I won’t be surprised if some commenters chime in with better experiences or even accuse me of having an attitude problem. All I can say is that this was my experience at one school. I can’t speak for your school. And truthfully, I do have a bit of an attitude. My passion is for food and not for the industry. Some people have a passion for working the line; they love the chaos, the heat, and the hours. And that’s awesome. I want to relax in the front of the restaurant while they cook me fabulous meals. I’m not wrong and neither are they. We just have different perspectives. I wasn’t built for the line. So what? I love taking my time in the kitchen and never want to rush the experience ever again. I want to savor these skills I’ve learned and thank my lucky stars because school is a thing of the past and life is wonderful.
Every single NON-INTERNATIONALLY FOCUSED cooking class I have ever taken has convinced me I would find it miserable. SO many weird rules that no one has a good explanation for. So frustrating. So I totally believe everything you said. Having said that, all of the classes that I have taken on other culture’s cuisines have been very different–and isn’t that in itself interesting? Two were in the countries of origin (Morocco and Thailand) but I have also had wonderful experiences here in the States in Mexican cooking classes. Interesting.
I have had more than one person ask me why I don’t consider opening a bakery or a restaurant (depending on the person and what I have fed them lately lol) and each time I laugh hysterically. Nope not for me and good for you for telling the truth and good for you for sticking it out and finishing it.
COming back to add-what does it say ABOUT ME that I don’t consider French to be internationally focused? LOL….
This is an honest assessment, Jen. Thanks for your honesty. Way back when, I wanted to go to culinary school. So, I took some evening pre-culinary school classes, and I quickly found out that it is HARD WORK! And that was just from one 4-hour night per week. I can’t imagine doing it from 6 am – 2:30 pm Mon-Fri! Then, I also realized, just as most people are resting in the evenings, the weekends and holidays, it’s a restaurant’s busiest, most important time. Ummm, no thanks. But the straw that broke the camel’s back was when my very rigid European chef-instructor ordered me to carry a full stock pot (which must have weighed more than 50 pounds) from one burner to another, and screamed at me for NOT being able to do so (hey, I’m 5 feet tall, 98 pounds at that time)…I knew working the kitchen wasn’t for me. I also heard the divorce rate amongst chefs are pretty high as well :( So, I gave up the dream. Thank goodness, there’s food blogging now, because I get to indulge in my “dream” even for just a short moment in time.
I’m so glad you wrote this! I’ve been wanting to write a post about my experience, but have also struggled with sounding too-negative.
Now-a-days a LOT of people are going to culinary school wanting to end up like a Food Network celebrity. (When I signed up for culinary school, they had flat screen TVs along the walls that just played Food Network all day.)
The school I went to was $80K, and was pay-as-you-go; after the first quarter, I had to drop out because I was broke.
I know a few people (adults, 20-30 y.o.) who have completed culinary school: one is still living with his parents, one just went broke trying to start her own catering company and lives with her parents, and one works at a magazine. It should be highlighted, underlined, and circled that this is most certainly NOT a path to go down if ones end-goal is to have a nice paying job.
I think in the end, it’s better to just start as a dishwasher and work your way up; you achieve the same exact pay, except you aren’t up to your eyeballs in student loans.
A good honest post that would be good to share with people, just like Stella of Bravetart who wrote about going into the food industry. People think it’s all fun because it’s food, but it doesn’t mean you want to do it for your job.
What a great post about your experience! I’ve considered culinary programs in Italy but wasn’t sure that any of them would be worth the time and expense in the end. I think you have enough material to go on for you first book :).
Thank you for such an honest post – it sounds so incredibly hard and I know that I wouldn’t be able to cope with the pressure. I think you deserve so much praise & respect for getting through it.
In the end, it´s all about what´s right or wrong for us personally, not for the rest. This is an honest post, telling us about your experience. I would think most culinary students feel the same you do, and I know I´ve seen more than one post about it. A. Bourdain Kitchen Confidential has an interesting part about his experience: if you have the talent you can get the experience and knowledge by working in good restaurants a few years. If you don´t have the talent, culinary school will not helf much and it´ll take you forever to pay your loans or you´ll be frustrated with the work you´re able to get.
I think cooking is mainly about passion. And that can mean being a home cook too! I agree with you about liking the food but not the industry. So true!
Such a fun post to read as I’ve thought of going to Culinary School. Sounds like it wouldn’t be for me.
Should be required reading for anyone considering culinary school. In fact, I will share it on the Hot, Cheap & Easy FB page!
I don’t read this as you having an attitude problem. I think it’s just as important to share your negative life experiences with your readers as your positive ones, otherwise how will we ever get to know the real you? I spent a week at the CIA in Hyde Park and my experience was much different, but that’s because I wasn’t really a “student” and more of a “guest”; we didn’t even have to do our own dishes! I witnessed how hard the real students had to work and I was in no way envious of them.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Wow – thanks so much for your honesty. I have immense respect for my friends who have survived culinary school — and this is why!! Definitely bookmarking to send to anyone who asks me about culinary school.
Proud of you for pushing through!
I thought this was a great post… open and honest.
I attended Culinary school for 1 1/2 years ( I stopped just shy of my externship due family reasons)
I was completely degraded one day when Chef made a huge deal that I had black socks on. Mind you, you could not see them, he made me lift my pant leg during a random uniform check.
I also was shocked at the amount of young kids whose parents were paying a pretty penny for them to attend, when really, some of these kids had chosen J&W just because culinary school sounded easy.
I worked with one girl who took 15 minutes to peel a piece of garlic.
it was painful to watch.
I smashed mine in 2 seconds flat.
I liked this post :)
That’s terrible. We were constantly degraded for the stupidest things. It was absolutely pointless. They either do it because they were treated that way or because any industry that works people to death for horrible hours and pay needs to make them feel worthless to pull it off.
Maybe both.
SO great, Jen! I love your thoughts and I think you did such a great job at talking about pros and cons. I love it. I have never had interest in going to culinary school but loved hearing about your journey!
Honest, poignant, and very brave post, Jen. My culinary school experience had many of the same negatives (sense of urgency to a 19-year old is SOOOO different than it is to a 45-year old!)
However, I attend a culinary program through a hands-on technical college. I had 40% of my credits from outside of the kitchen classroom lectures. I DID get to learn about healthy nutrition (Chef Richard was responsible for encouraging me to quit smoking after 23 years AND he turned me on to quinoa!)
Was it hell standing without a break for 4 hours? Absolutely. Was it crappy that my mis en place disappeared when I turned my back for 10 seconds? HELL yes. It appears, however, that what I experienced was a level of compassion and understanding from my chef instructors that you never received.. Every one of them wanted me to succeed. They gave me daily doses of reality checks as to how difficult of an industry I’d be heading into. They never lied about how cut throat it is out there, but they did look for and point out the qualities I possessed or had the potential to possess that would help me shine in my future job. My health problems prevented me from getting a Bachelor’s degree in Culinary Arts, but I did walk out the door with a food production management degree. I have a new found appreciation for my life and I can hold my head up high and be proud of my accomplishment. A first time college student in my 40′s… who would have thunk it? I hope that you have some of those same feelings of pride for yourself. You fought the great culinary battle… and came out a better version of your former self <3
Your assessment is absolutely honest…and that’s really what us career chefs/cooks/bakers really need. My culinary classes featured a mix of young kids who had no idea how to cook an egg, but wanted to get a degree “easily”, people who wanted to directly be on Food Network, homemakers or older women and men who just wanted to do this for “fun”, and the career kids (like me) who actually cared about what they were doing and wanted to learn. A lot of classmates were only in for their self and had egos that could kill an elephant. There was a lot of sabotage, a lot of hate, and a lot of stress. Twice people fed me mushrooms because they didn’t care to know that I had a severe allergy and I guess thought I just didn’t like them. I spent all day shaking and 2 hours on the school’s bathroom floor throwing up after those incidents.
It’s a rough life, especially when you’re working in a restaurant and going to school at the same time..no rest. It also gets a bit buggy because every single chef has a different way they want things done so you could chop an onion one way and then get yelled at the next day by a teacher because you didn’t chop it their way. I also cried a lot, gained scars, and also a lot of hate for the people I was someday going to be in the industry with. But I did meet a lot of great friends, work with amazing chefs, and gain a better outlook on myself. I do not regret my culinary schooling, but it was the sort of hell only crazy people would go through. Thanks again for your honesty!
I really appreciate the honesty in this article. I am currently working full time and going to school full time, and I often fantasize that when I am done with all of this madness I am going to spend a year in culinary school. It is a romantic notion although I also know it is nothing to fantasize about. Really, I just want to cook. It’s my release. I don’t need to spend thousands of dollars on culinary school to learn… I should already know that staring at my current student debt. I certainly respect and admire that you accepted the challenge and stuck with it. That says a lot about you as a person and as a chef!
Oh, and for a girl with a handful of pretty intense food allergies… I’m thinking the forced butter and dairy consumption could get pretty ugly. LOL
So even after reading this I can’t imagine wanting to go anywhere else or do anything else. Is that normal? haha! I love this though, thank you for your honesty!
I do think it’s normal, actually. I actively followed an amazing blog before attending school called Cooking School Confidential (the content is now gone because she turned it into a book) and she documented the horrors. For some reason it just made me want to go more. Possibly because it wasn’t all so real yet but it doesn’t matter. I knew it was what I needed to do at the time. If you know, you go :)
i have so much respect for you for sticking it out! And I am reasonably sure that the experience has contributed to both your strength as a chef and a person. Kudos! Your honest assessment of the experience is important for those who are going into the industry as a whole. With our without the degree, anyone working in fine dining is going to be exposed to this level of pressure and so it is obviously not a career for everyone with talent! I know I couldn’t handle the personal attacks! I think this was a very important post, and on my own personal side, it is just nice to learn a bit more about you. That you’ve been able to accomplish so much is truly wonderful. I have “discovered” some very decent and approachable chefs in my own little study–Bravo’s Top Chef–(that’s my entire exposure. ha!). I think you’ll be one of the “good guys” after your observations! Debra
Great write-up, Jen. I honestly don’t know the first thing about culinary schools, except that everyone looks so happy in the commercials. It’s good to hear about it from someone who has had first-hand experience. I once waitresses at an exceptionally busy restaurant (not a chain). I would get stressed just walking through the kitchen to grab extra plates. It was a madhouse. The chefs were awesome but it was almost as though they morphed into different people while they were working. Given my already perpetual state of anxiety, I doubt that I could survive culinary school. I already had a huge amount of respect for you, but after reading what you went through, it’s just skyrocketed. :D
my little brother went to culinary school. he would agree with every single point you made. and i watched him go through it, so i can attest as well. He hated it. and felt like he wasted a lot of money going as well. he now is back at school doing a totally different degree, but that was his decision. He just didnt care for it all after everything…a 30k lesson learned…
that sounds horrible! you must be so proud of yourself for everything you’ve achieved!
Hurray, Jen. I ditto everything you said (as you know – for your readers, Jen and I were in culinary schools at about the same time and we commiserated). Culinary school was amazing – and horrible. And it is not just Jen and I who believe this. After my book came out (“Culinary School: Three Semesters of Life, Learning, and Loss of Blood;” here it is if you are interested: http://amzn.to/oqXw1R), all sorts of people wrote to say, yes, they too discovered it was not the dream they hoped for. Alas.
I figured you would like this :)
Bravo Jen! What a fantastic post! Thank you for sharing you thoughts and opinions. I love hearing your prospective and your experience. Well said!
What an honest post. I’ve never attended a cooking course but I’ve been thinking about it. TYhank you for sharing.
Wow, strong post. I have often thought about culinary school, but I know I do not have what it takes… The Making of a Chef, cured me of that… Kudos to you for speaking your mind and sharing your experience. I am glad you did it and others do it, that we have good food and passionate people at all stages in their careers. Cheers…
I wish I had read your post prior to enrolling in culinary school (back in 2006). Not that I didn’t enjoy it, make friends and learn tons, but my goodness, the extra debt! Biggest regret of my life.
It’s good to know what you’re getting into! I’ll be paying my loan back for quite some time.
What an amazing post. Thank you for your candor, sharing and not sugarcoating your real feelings, and for the insider’s perspective. Everything you said about it, about it sort of being like boot camp, chef’s way or the highway, break you down to build you up, that scramble hurry up hurry rush chaos, competitiveness, vegetarians are laughed at…all of that are reasons why I could never go. I love learning about food and cooking, but not in an environment like that. I would not thrive, ever. Never! in that environment. Bravo to you for making it out! And for this honest post!
Sounds like a LAC experience to me! I also feel a passion for food but not for the industry. I love cake, pies, ice cream, lemon curd, etc., but I don’t have a love for working the line and plating desserts during lunch rush or during a crazy weekend night. I like to take my time with food and feel close to it. That is why I know that I won’t be working in the restaurant industry for much longer…hahaha, or at least that’s what I hope!
I thought you might recognize it! Things always looked much calmer and more pleasant in the pastry class, though. I tried to switch mid-way though and Barbara talked me out of it. How much of this do you connect with?
That was a great and interesting read, Jen! I feel like culinary school has been totally glamorized on television. I would have no desire to ever go through that… but no wonder your food looks exceptionally amazing! :)
WOW! Thank you so much for the honest break down of that culinary school is like. I was considering if I should bit the bullet and go but now I am reconsidering. I am glad you had some positive experiences from going.
Wow, I never knew a lot of this about culinary school. When I cook “good” meals for my boyfriend, he suggests culinary school, and I routinely tell him that although I love cooking, it’s not an industry I want to get into. Maybe I’ll send him this post next time and he’ll believe me ;)
I love this. It is honest and yes, it is so different from my experience in school. But like you said, it was your experience at your school. Everyone will have their story, and they are all real, to them. But one thing we all have in common is food. I am not made for a line either. I didn’t go to school to work at a restaurant, people think I am crazy. I have learned so much, and my confidence sky rocketed. The values we each learn from different experiences are our own, no one can tell us what to get from a situation. I admire your honesty and love that you shared this with us. Thanks.
I love this post jen. So honest! So much respect for you. I’m not sure I could handle all that pressure. While I love to cook and bake, I don’t think I’d be able to do it. I hate competing with others and quite frankly, I don’t eat all that much french food! I’d also miss a social life and the healthy foods I love. Thanks for posting this Jen – all such useful information and opinions.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I was watching The Great Food Truck Race last week and they showed a shot of culinary school students prepping food in the kitchen – you could just tell by the look on their faces that they were tired and miserable.
I feel a lot of “glamorous” or “fun”-sounding careers actually have a dark underside that few people know about. I studied broadcasting in college, and I had a professor who nearly made me change my major because all he lectured us about was how broadcasters NEVER get a day off (especially on holidays – you can’t exactly tape the newscast and air it later), you have to be at the station at 2:00 a.m. to prep for the morning show at 5:00, and if a tornado/hurricane is rolling in and the town is evacuating, you get into the news van and drive right into the storm, risking your life so your viewers can be informed.
I think it’s really noble of you to be so honest, and I think anyone going to culinary school needs to know this before they even sign up. It will save them a lot of stress and debt in the future. Besides, there are many ways someone can express their love for cooking – there’s nothing wrong with self-training, cooking for your family, or becoming a food blogger like yourself.
Fantastic post!
Thank you so much for the kind words, Leah! I’ve always thought broadcasters must have a rough job. Especially when they’re on the news saying to get home immediately or expect to be stranded in a blizzard and I think “but what about you???”
You’re welcome :) I’ve never had to travel to a storm site, but when I was working at my college radio station there was a tornado warning in our area and we had to stay on the air! Our advisor told us we had to give weather updates every five minutes, but if the tornado came within five miles of our building, we could shut down. Looking back on it, it was kind of exciting in a dangerous way :P
I love this post. It’s always been a dream of mine to go to culinary school, but it just hasn’t been financially feasible. I think I must be some kind of masochist because it is still something I would do in a heartbeat if I could afford it, despite everything you just wrote!
Thanks for sharing your experiences – it was incredibly interesting to hear the non-glamorous side!
You’re not a masochist :) I pretty much knew all of this before I signed up, it just didn’t hit me until I was there. Trust me, it will hit you. But no one could have talked me out of it before I went.
What a great, honest post! I’ve always wondered what it was actually like to bein culinary school. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us.
My sister-in-law is considering Pastry School. Do you think she will have the same type of experience? Do you know anything about Pastry School?
The pastry class always looked a lot more relaxed!
I have always been fascinated by culinary school but didn’t know that much about it. This is one of the most interesting blog posts I’ve ever read. I don’t think I would’ve wanted to go to culinary school before reading this, as I’ve never enjoyed any kind of school, but I am now certain it would simply crush me. Thank you for writing such an honest post.
I enjoyed reading this post. I’ve never thought of enrolling in culinary school, but I was in grad school hoping to become a college professor, another career with crazy hours/work loads, crappy pay, and insane competition to find a decent job (despite the occasional media coverage suggesting professors work 15 hour weeks and are lousing about the rest of the time – could not be further from the truth). It certainly wasn’t physically exhausting in the way you describe (which sounds horrible!), but I did know of professors who advised grad students to break up with significant others and give up their hobbies so they could devote all of their time to their research. I decided I wasn’t enough of a masochist to keep pursuing this career once I fully understood what it was like, so I left with a masters degree. Now I cook for relaxation, and, after reading Kitchen Confidential recently, I know that my next career will definitely not be in the food industry! I admire your honest post – it seems that the careers people go into because they are passionate about them can often be the most abusive, because you’re expected to put up with a lot of crap if you truly love doing something. I think it’s always better to be as informed as you can before getting into something like this, even if the information doesn’t stop you from doing it – so you’re doing a service to readers who might be thinking of getting into culinary school themselves. Anyway, this is a long comment, but your post struck a real nerve :). I look forward to more recipes!
Thank you for a lovely comment :)
I am in culinary school right now and it is absolutley nothing like you describe! I think your school of choice makes a big difference. I am not saying it isnt hard (especially since I am only a few weeks away from turning 50 in a school full of 20 somethings) but I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. 9 weeks to graduation and I have the highest grade in the class – a 4.0! Hows that for an old lady! lol! :)
I’m glad to hear you’re having a positive experience!
I stumbled across your post from a friend’s tweet. I love the honesty and as a professional in the food industry, I found myself nodding to your points. I was a “mature” student at culinary school so I had more drive than the kids around me. I am glad I went to culinary school, but I know it’s not for everyone. I feel like culinary school is designed to weed out those who have romantic notions about the food industry or being a chef. Real life in the food industry is a lot like school, right down to the “my way or the highway” attitude. Actually, real life is generally harder than school – but if one can’t hack four hours of gogogogogo then that is a good sign that the food industry is not the career path to be on! Of course, I only stayed for 6 months of school, then ditched and started my career: I picked up the essentials, the rest was learned on the job.
What an honest post. You really opened my eyes about culinary school and I realized that I just don’t think it’s for me. I like taking my sweet sweet time in the kitchen and when I have battle wounds in the kitchen, I become such a baby about it! I just don’t think I could ever handle all that pressure.
Thank you for sharing your experiences and thoughts. To me it sounds like the culinary school prepares you to the worst possible scenarios in kitchens. I spent some weeks (out of curiosity) in several restaurant kitchens – all your points did appear in some of those establishments, but fortunately not all of them at once. Fighting for kitchen equipment (e.g. a silicon mat without holes or a still intact sieve) and having your meal in a rush (usually standing, because you never sit in a kitchen) is something I’ve experienced in all restaurant kitchens up to now. Though the meals didn’t got on my hips since on those long working days with a busy dinner service I had only time for one single meal.
Fortunately, there are open minded chefs who do accept and are curious about other ways of preparing the same food or dish. After leaving school, it’s crucial to find some chef from this open-minded category. Or at least something different, like you did with your internship at a vegetarian restaurant. On the plus side I’d add another point, which is more related to the internships than the culinary school itself: It was absolutely exciting seeing food you helped to prep or cook go out to paying customers (and empty plates coming back ;) ). I also loved to seek out the feedback of my fellow line cooks, who actually plated my salad, used my brunoise bell pepper or cooked my ravioli – this feedback loop helped me to improve in a very short time. And of course another plus: beer never tastes as great as after a long day with a busy dinner service ;)
What great insights! I saw a movie once where a guy was a line chef and all he kept saying was, “Yes, Chef!” after anything she said. I thought it odd.
I loved this post – i’m sure it helped a lot of people regarding culinary school! It sounds like a very tough thing to get through – I give people a lot of credit who went through it.
p.s. I’m very into lists, too :)
Jen, this is a great post. I’ve read through it twice now and I’m so glad you posted it when you did. Once I graduate from college, I’m headed to New York for culinary school, and I’m SO nervous! But it’s something I’ve wanted to do for so long, I can’t help but hope the benefits outweigh all the bad stuff!
No one could have talked me out of it before I went. If it feels right go for it! At least you’ll be informed. I hope your experience is a positive one.
Hats off to you for the honesty and sharing your experience. I never thought about going to culinary school but I know a lot of people who do. Great tips and advice, Jen!
Thank you for this post! It is so enormously helpful to a lot of people and I’m definitely referring this onto others as I often talk to people about making food a career :D
Fascinating post, Jen. Sorry to hear about all the negative experiences you encountered at culinary school, I have no idea that it was THAT intense. That smoking thing did annoy me. There are workplaces in Australia (not necessarily restaurants or cafes, or culinary schools) that allow 5 minute breaks for smokers but non-smokers during their shift which is unfair as hell =/
Great post Jen, I think it sounds honest not negative-I’m glad you wrote this and gave so many readers good ‘food for thought’! Cooking in a restaurant is hard work, not much glamorous about it. I agree with you about seeking out a ‘stage’ to find out if working in a restaurant kitchen is really for you before spending money, blood, sweat and tears in a culinary school. There are plenty of JC certificate programs in culinary arts that offer internships with training/experience without costing an arm and a leg, they may not offer the distinction of a top culinary program but in the end it’s your restaurant experience and what you do with it that really counts in this profession.
Love reading this, Jen. Very honest and true to what I’ve heard. My husband almost went to culinary school, but, to make a long story short, he was offered a job as a kitchen manager and did that instead. He just recently stopped working in the kitchen after seven years. He loved it, but he told me he was getting too “old.” He is in his mid-thirties, but the work is so physically intense that it was wearing him down. It’s a tough gig. He did take several cooking classes at the local community college and loved them. The instructors were great and he learned a lot so that might be something for people to consider if they don’t want the big loans. I know there are disadvantages, but it’s another option. Great post!
Great post. I’ve been in the restaurant biz (manager, though of course I had to be able to cook everything everything on the menu, wait tables, wash dishes – in case someone was sick) and it’s incredibly hard work. Cooking on the line is actually a lot of fun, but it’s not particularly good pay for most people (if you rise to the top it is; most people don’t get there). I’ve known people who’ve been to culinary school, and they all say about the same stuff that you do – great eye opener.
This was a great post, necessary and honest, by the sounds of the many comments I also read. Watching Top Chef has shown me that the “chef” world is rough stuff. Smoking, cursing, tatoos, and a hard edge. Not for me. My life is about home cooking, savoring, enjoying, and I never want that to change. I love food blogging, documenting the joys of the kitchen, of food, of discovery. I think culinary school would disappoint me, and I would never fit in, as I hate all the harshness, the tatoos, smoking, cursing, and hatred. It’s like working at a car factory (rough stuff there). No thank you. Also, with the internet, tv shows, videos, I can learn to cook at home with no humiliation. My dream is to teach people (real people) to cook and for them to have a wonderful experience and bring that back to their family. I’m so glad you took the time to write this post. I’m glad you finished and learned; I”m sorry for your experiences. Maybe you stopped someone from doing something that would not be a good fit for them.
How often we get to hear honest opinion about culinary school! I never actually “wanted” to go to a culinary school but always wondered how it’s like to be cooking “in school”. Now food gets a lot of attention, I’m sure a lot of people wish to go to a culinary school. This must be a great reality check and you’ve done a wonderful job writing (and I can imagine it wasn’t easy to do). Thanks for sharing your honest opinion and experience with us readers!
Thank you for your honest post! I toyed with the idea of going to culinary school when I was in between jobs but decided against it because of the cost mostly but also because I didn’t really want to work in a restaurant, just wanted to increase my skills and knowledge and I thought I could do that with some fun cooking classes in my community that weren’t so strict. I appreciate your honest assessment and can say based on your experience that I don’t think it would be for me. Congratulations on making it through such a tough experience!
Thank you for this.
You are very welcome.
I enjoyed reading your post. You are spot on about all of the things you mention, especially about culinary schools just “wanting your money”. It seems like these institutions will let just about anybody in as long as they agree to sign a contract promising to pay the overpriced tuition fees. At the culinary school I attended, there is an aptitude test that all students must take. I have heard of students failing the test, then being allowed to retake it multiple times until they finally pass. This shows that anybody with a pulse can get “accepted”.
If the school’s main office consists of a couple dozen sales reps sitting in cubicles (appearing like a telemarketing center), on their headphones and you hear them reading off the same script while soliciting poor saps who have probably contacted the school once (they never delete your info after ten years) to find out general information such as tuition fees or admission requirements, run the other way. That is exactly how Le Cordon Bleu (of Pasadena, Calif.) is. And I heard this is the case for many of the Le Cordon Bleu schools in the United States.
Keep in mind that many of the greatest chefs did not attend culinary school. Some of the most talented, high-end chefs I have worked with do not have culinary degrees. Starting as dishwashers and working their way up seems to be the common path that most of the Executive Chefs I know have taken. And some even told me that they would never hire anybody from a culinary school, especially a recent know-it-all graduate who has never worked the line in his/her life.
I can’t tell you how many of my peers cannot find that “guaranteed” employment after graduating. And even when they do find work, they are lucky if they are getting paid $10/hr, doing the same job and working with people who are not drowning in thousands of debt.